Madonna Responds To Dolce & Gabbana
(Tipped by JMG reader Eric)
Labels: Dolce and Gabbana, fashion, gay families, gay icons, gay parenting, Italy, Madonna, pop music, surrogacy
(Tipped by JMG reader Eric)
Labels: Dolce and Gabbana, fashion, gay families, gay icons, gay parenting, Italy, Madonna, pop music, surrogacy
Right Wing Watch has the transcript:
"Is this the kind of freedom that we're at? Anyone who feels the same as Dolce and Gabbana, let me ask you, are they empowered to express their view or are they now afraid that Hollywood and progressives will come after them? The party of progress is making progress indeed, back to the Dark Ages, back to the days when differing scientific views were labeled heresy and black magic. As the march toward conformity continues, America gets farther and farther away from the place where those who will change the world with art and science and music, those who will bring on the next Renaissance just might find themselves locked up in a tower and sadly never paint the next Mona Lisa."
Labels: boycotts, Dolce and Gabbana, Elton John, fashion, gay families, gay parenting, Glenn Beck, surrogacy, teabaggers
Embattled billionaire designers Dolce and Gabbana took to CNN this morning for some damage control.
In an exclusive interview on Wednesday, Dolce said his views on IVF were private, personal beliefs based on his sense of a traditional Sicilian family. "I believe in the traditional family," he said. "It is impossible to change my culture for something different. It's me... I respect all the world, all the culture." Dolce said he did not judge people who chose the procedure, although he previously made controversial statements to the Italian magazine, Panorama, referring to IVF babies as "chemistry children and synthetic children."Hit the link for the video.
The initial comments from Dolce and Gabbana struck some as hypocritical coming from a gay couple that was romantically involved until 2005 (they continued working together after the breakup). Dolce's comment was seen as an attack on gay and lesbian families.
But Gabbana said they weren't telling anyone how to live their lives. "We love gay couple. We are gay. We love gay couple. We love gay adoption. We love everything. It's just an express of my private point of view," he said. Dolce told CNN he was not boycotting the artist: "I love the music of Elton John." He said he believed they could end the dispute: "Every people resolve everything by talk... we start to talk, the problem is resolved." The pair said they respected how people chose to live their lives, including the use of IVF, and said others should also respect differences in opinion.
Labels: Dolce and Gabbana, Elton John, fashion, gay adoption, gay families, gay parenting, Italy, surrogacy
"The completely petulant and histrionic response from gay parents like Ryan Murphy to Dolce & Gabbana's comments can give average Americans a small taste of what children in such homes will have to deal with. You can't be a good parent and want to have absolute control over what your kids think and feel, in addition to what the whole world thinks and feels about you and your kids. It's a recipe for emotional abuse of whoever is under your power. Look at the punitive urge, the lust for vengeance, the despotism. That is what I see in Ricky Martin, Jeremy Hooper, Ryan Murphy, and Elton John.
Labels: crackpots, Dolce and Gabbana, douchebaggery, Elton John, gay families, gay parenting, Jeremy Hooper, religion, Ricky Martin, Robert Oscar Lopez, self-loathing, surrogacy
Stefano Gabbana today thanked Robert Oscar Lopez and other crackpot alleged children of gay parents after they posted a public letter praising his vile stance against LGBT families. From the letter:
Nobody receives more vicious attacks from the lobby than those who come from the gay community and question its policies: children of gay couples just as much as the gay men who defend them (like the two of you). In all likelihood many in the international community will try to get your shows cancelled, your advertisements censored, and your reputation destroyed online. You have shown yourselves to be extremely brave. You have given us great inspiration as all six of us prepare to submit letters to the US Supreme Court against gay marriage.The letter writers conclude by declaring that they are now "lifelong buyers" of Dolce and Gabanna products. (Tipped by JMG reader Andrea)
We want to praise your courage and thank you for your inspiration. We also implore you not to surrender when the backlash grows in intensity. If you back down from what you said and apologize, it will leave the children of gay homes even more vulnerable and discredited. It is important for our sake, for the sake of Italian children as well, that you not apologize or capitulate. Please support the idea that all children need to be bonded with their mothers and fathers. It is a human right.
Labels: assholery, crackpots, Dolce and Gabbana, fashion, gay families, gay parenting, homocons, LGBT rights, marriage equality, Robert Oscar Lopez, surrogacy
They may be trying to walk back their anti-LGBT comments in the press, but yesterday Stefano Gabbana took to Instagram to compare their situation to Charlie Hebdo. Not incidentally, the #BoycottDolceGabbana hashtag is trending at #1 in the United States at this writing. (Tipped by JMG reader John)
Labels: assholery, Dolce and Gabbana, fashion, gay families, gay parenting, Instagram, Italy, LGBT rights, surrogacy
Hate group leader Austin Ruse writes at Breitbart:
Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana, founders of the eponymous fashion house, have come out strongly against gay marriage, the notion of gay families, and the use of surrogacy to procreate. The billionaire pair, who used to be romantically linked, gave an interview with the Italian magazine Panorama, in which they said, “The only family is the traditional one. No chemical offspring and rented uterus. Life has a natural flow; there are things that cannot be changed.”Elton John has called for a boycott:
They also said, “Procreation must be an act of love. I call children of chemistry, synthetic children. Uteri for rent, semen chosen from a catalogue,” Dolce stated. Gabanna said, “The family is not a fad. In it there is a supernatural sense of belonging.” The pair have long been outspoken about gay marriage. In 2013, when the London Telegraph asked them if they had ever considered getting married, they answered, “What? Never!” Dolce said, “I’m a practicing Catholic.”
In an Instagram post on Sunday morning, John said: “How dare you refer to my beautiful children as ‘synthetic’. “And shame on you for wagging your judgemental little fingers at IVF – a miracle that has allowed legions of loving people, both straight and gay, to fulfil their dream of having children. “Your archaic thinking is out of step with the times, just like your fashions. I shall never wear Dolce and Gabbana ever again. #BoycottDolceGabbana.” The Czech-American former tennis star Martina Navratilova, who married her girlfriend in December, tweeted in support: “Wow – I had no idea. It will be interesting to see if this ridiculousness hurts them in the bank. BoycottDolceGabbana.”
Labels: Dolce and Gabbana, douchebaggery, Elton John, fashion, gay parenting, Italy, LGBT rights, marriage equality, surrogacy
Yesterday a gay man pondered the responsibilities and legalities of a sperm donation to a lesbian couple in an essay published by the New York Times. An excerpt:
Beyond legal entanglements, I grew anxious wondering about the practical consequences of a known-donor arrangement. Tori and Kelly don’t want a co-parent, and I’m not looking to be a father. Still, our biological connection wouldn’t be a secret; shouldn’t I be prepared to maintain a relationship with a child I helped bring into the world? What does that look like? No one was asking me to change diapers on the daily, but should I plan on attending all birthday parties and piano recitals?Hit the link for his decision.
Then there were the implications for my family. “Who’d have thought,” my father joked excitedly when I broached the subject, “my gay son might be the first to give me a grandkid!” I reminded him, guiltily, that he wouldn’t be a grandfather to this child. Not really. No more than I’d be a father. Tori and Kelly are open to my family’s involvement, but it’d be less than if I were raising a child myself. This means no holidays spent together in Salt Lake; no sleepovers at Grandma or Grandpa Dodge’s. My parents understand this and have consented — possibly figuring it’s the closest they’ll come to getting a grandchild out of me — but is this fair to them?
Labels: gay families, gay parenting, NYTimes, surrogacy
"Gay men are men – to wit, men who define themselves as men-loving men who refuse to be involved with women. It’s reasonable not to hate people for existing in such a male-centered way, but on the other hand, it’s unreasonable to endorse without any caveats any aim or demand that such a group might articulate. Gestational surrogacy is a dream come true for woman-hating chauvinists who are bound to congregate under such an umbrella: men enjoy all the 'phallic' privilege that the bourgeois patriarchy can provide, and women are put in their place. Not even in the kitchen, no – in a barracks somewhere, patrolled by goons who will snatch away their babies whenever the men demand it. We’ve seen this before – not only in the United States, but going all the way back to Rome. For some time I have pointed out that the 13th and 14th Amendments are separated by only three years, and therefore the gay marriage proponents ought not to be able to cite the 14th Amendment without addressing the fact that champions of dad-only families seem to clash openly with what’s stated in the 13th against slavery." - Homocon horcrux Robert Oscar Lopez, writing for American Thinker.
Labels: batshittery, bovine spongiform encephalopathy, crackpots, douchebaggery, homocons, religion, Robert Oscar Lopez, surrogacy
In 1992 New York state outlawed paid surrogacy after the famed Baby M case in which a gestational mother refused to surrender her baby to the New Jersey couple who had paid her to carry the child. Three years ago openly gay New York state Sen. Brad Hoylman and his now-husband had a baby via surrogacy with a California woman. Hoylman this week became the state Senate sponsor of a bill to repeal New York's ban.
Surrogate baby-making has long been a path taken by the affluent and celebrities, partly because it takes good legal advice and money to accomplish. But in recent years, it has been growing among gay men, who in a fundamentally conservative embrace of family values, see having children and building a family as the logical next step after getting married. “Not to be cliché, but you know how the phrase goes — first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the baby and the baby carriage,” said Allison Steinberg, a spokeswoman for the Empire State Pride Agenda, which has endorsed the bill.Gestational surrogacy can cost over $100,000, including medical and legal fees. So-called altruistic surrogacy, in which the mother is not paid, is legal in New York state. Paid surrogacy is also illegal in Arizona, Indiana, Michigan, Nebraska, and Washington DC, according to the New York Times.
The bill’s supporters argue that it makes no sense for New York, which has a large number of fertility clinics, not to mention a flourishing gay community, not to be able to offer commercial surrogacy to those who want it. And they say that making surrogacy more widely available could reduce the exorbitant costs, easily as much as $100,000 per baby. In Mr. Hoylman and Mr. Sigal’s case, neither of their parents expected them to have children. “Now they think he’s a family man,” Mr. Sigal said, grinning at his husband. “It’s a funny phrase,” Mr. Hoylman said. “This is what it takes for people to relate to you.”
Labels: Brad Hoylman, gay families, gay parenting, gay politicians, New York state, surrogacy
As I reported on Sunday, Manif Pour Tous and the neo-Nazi National Front drew tens of thousands of supporters over the weekend for rallies in opposition over a bill that would grant gay couples the right to use surrogacy to build their families. Today LGBT groups are angry and the haters are celebrating after the Hollande government agreed to delay the bill for at least a year.
Conservatives in France were heralding a victory on this week after President François Hollande’s administration announced it was delaying until at least 2015 a proposal to legalize "medically assisted procreation" (known as PMA in France) and surrogacy for same sex couples. But, in the opposite corner, the decision has drawn harsh condemnation from gay and lesbian groups. Rights group Inter-LGBT denounced the “major political cowardice of the government and the president,” according to a statement. They went on to say Hollande’s government “doesn’t take responsibility for its commitments, from which it has pulled back with an incredible series of back peddling moves over the course of several months,” the statement said. “This umpteenth climb down illuminates the government’s disdain for all lesbians.” Hollande’s administration announced on Monday it was postponing its plans to move ahead with legislation that would have legalized medically assisted procreation, like IVF, for lesbians, and tackled issues like surrogacy. Left wing politicians also seized on the government’s about face as a great failure. "The left has been deceived,” Far-left firebrand Jean-Luc Mélenchon told the AFP. “I call for elections that will inflict severe punishment on the government.”In better news, Manif Pour Tous did suffer a significant defeat yesterday with the European Parliament.
Manif pour tous', the French movement formed in opposition to France's legalisation of gay marriage last year, failed today to defeat a European Parliament report calling for discrimination protection to be extended to sexual orientation. The movement had conducted a high-profile campaign against the report and cooperated with other groups across Europe to deliver a petition with 200,000 signatures to MEPs. It was the first major pan-European effort by the group since Frigide Barjot, a former leader of the group, announced in Strasbourg in March last year that she wished to expand the movement's activities to a pan-European level. The group staged demonstrations against the report over the weekend in Paris, Lyon, Warsaw, Budapest, Madrid and Brussels with signs that read "Brussels, leave our kids alone".The vote in the non-binding resolution was 394-196. The petition from Manif Pour Tous had over 200K signature. Read it here.
Labels: France, gay families, gay parenting, hate groups, LGBT rights, Manif Pour Tous, National Front, neo-Nazis, religion, surrogacy